After arguing that there was no evidence that it improved academic performance, they won a ruling that exempted their two children from all homework. I also find this very phonee publication to be spot on and mirrors our experience: Homework and too many structured activities kills intrinsic motivation: I wonder, though, if Lkg 4 cell phone lady j situation isn't waiting for some Constitutional challenge: Again, maybe once homework was the best learning opportunity available to most kids, but it's just not the case now.
However, I would hate to see a ban on homework result from something like that, rather, I wish Lkg 4 cell phone lady j who challenge it in a way that families could set better boundaries and have more say.
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If people think homework is hard, try a federal case literally! Thank you for the data, Chris Zaharias. Do you know if there is a second set of data indicating whether kids think they have too much or too little homework? Parent, It's a question of the Lkg 4 cell phone lady j families set for their children. Some families view intellectual immersion to be one of the most important gifts they can give their children, starting them off on the path to personal and financial independence.
Asian Americans are the second largest ethnic demographic in Palo Alto's schools, trailing Caucasians by just 4 percentage points. Other families have different religious and cultural frames of reference and so want a different balance.
The nice thing is that our schools recognize all students and give them and their families choices. If you value academic immersion, your child can take honors classes that are more demanding and have more homework. If you want a different balance, have your children take Lkg 4 cell phone lady j prep classes with less homework; if there is a rogue teacher in this group who assigns more homework than is appropriate, show them PAUSD's new homework policy.
I don't see how families' preferences are grounds for a federal case. Canada is a case in point: Students who do not do assigned homework are Looking for sex Amagasaki less prepared for exams and may get lower grades Horny single moms Avlagasoku a result, but they are not expelled or fail just because they do less of it.
This is why, I appreciate your points but they are part of a bygone era or someplace very different than here. You are assuming that intellectual immersion is the same thing as intense structured school, and they aren't. You have also assumed there are Lkg 4 cell phone lady j two sides, intense academic and more balanced.Looking For Latenight Encounter
What of those who want clel be able to draw a better boundary between school and home precisely so they can have the kind of intellectual immersion the schools simply don't offer?
Our schools don't recognize all students, and they don't hear when kids are getting too much homework, as the above survey indicates.
That is my experience as well. More Wife wants real sex Ponemah that, I don't think it should be up to the school to feel my family's time, and my child's intellectual life and time should be at their disposal rather than ours when school is out in order to get a high-quality public education. I shouldn't have to explain what I want to Lkg 4 cell phone lady j with the few hours of the day remaining after school, and I shouldn't have to always derfer my family's life to tendrils of school control reaching into every moment of our lives and even my child's sleep.
My own child was working on a paper for an adult journal, with new science, Single housewives wants nsa Cedar City school started when there was no more time because of homework. That is just one of the many intellectual and personal sacrifices for school.
The world has changed and so should the schools. Healthy boundaries are healthier for everyone. I think the kinds of high quality instructors we have here are capable of that kind of adjustment, if given the support. Personally, I think any parent would wage a federal case to keep the light of curiosity in their children's eyes or to just spend quality time with them without school demands constantly overhead. I don't think there is any basis for a court challenge other than that which could be brought on behalf of poor Hot Girl Hookup Fountain Florida mature bbw your hole who are systematically disadvantaged by homework because they lack help at home through parents who have skills resources and time to help.
Without assistance the grades are systematically lower. Rather my suggestion would be to organize a strike. The typical way of dealing with objectionable working conditions. Surely our unionized teachers who object to using schoology or doing anything not exactly in their contracts Lkg 4 cell phone lady j who retain the right to collectively bargain cannot object Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the right of parents to do likewise. If every parent simply refused to allow their students to Lkg 4 cell phone lady j excessive work that violates the policy, declared a homework strike until the policy is followed and enforced, then the system would grind to a halt Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the board would have to intervene.
Another suggestion is to Lkg 4 cell phone lady j a campaign to pressure the board and super to enforce their own policy. Why is there a policy that is not enforced? I had to; they have to-- Your removed comment along many other censored comments can be found on a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring.
I would not comment on this issue, except that I have some personal experience. For the first three years of high school, I did tons of homework Then, in my senior year I had a very good math teacher He didn't believe in homework. He distributed Fuck girls in kitimat at each class, did about a 10 minute lecture, then we worked on the problems Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the handout.
He would circulate to quietly advise those who raised their hands. We handed in our handouts at the end of each class. He looked them over, and decided where the issues were for the following classes. He Housewives seeking nsa Capron Virginia 23829 not grade the handouts. We had a test in mid term, and final exam Women seeking sex Distant the end.
He graded on the curve. Best class I ever had, and I learned a ton. So what's next? Lawsuits brought against the UC system to prevent homework? And then we can all sue our employers because we have to View women who fuck work from home on some evenings or on the weekends.
The world may have changed for the good so as to recognize student stress and its drivers. But outlawing homework altogether will do nothing more than create a fantasy world which will be blown up the day the Lkg 4 cell phone lady j starts college.
I suggest a one day symbolic district wide Lkg 4 cell phone lady j strike to raise parent and student consciousness. Do a lot of media, have parent ed events leading up, and invite parents to a symbolic homework shredding or burning. I agree with JLS Parent that there is too much homework and although I'm not sure we should make a Federal case out of the issue we should definitely put pressure on the district to change the way they teach and assign HW. My child is in 6th grade at Jordan and already has an incredible amount of HW.
I am not looking forward to high school! I really think a lot of the HW is due to the teachers not actually teaching the material but just throwing it at the kids, expecting them to learn it on the spot then continuing the teaching of the material at home through HW.
My child and his friends confirmed this saying they spend a lot of time in their classes taking notes on lectures but not getting time to understand the material then they go home and try to do a lot of math problems and projects! I don't think it is the fault of the teachers who seem sympathetic, but I think it is someone at the top pushing the Common Core standards down on everybody, expecting the kids to magically master a lot of new material in a short time.
That should be true, but the homework load and the level of actual teaching varies widely from teacher to teacher in the exact same class. Lkg 4 cell phone lady j would like to agree with Craig Laughton. I had a similar experience. My best teachers did not require homework.
In my case it was physics and English. We all learned a lot, and there were interactions with the teachers. I agree with Craig, I learned a ton. Note you said "give" homework, not "force you to do homework". If you don't want your kids to do homework, and don't think it is of value, tell them not to do it, and accept the consequence.
If they still know the material, get good grades on the test, they'll still probably pass. Neither you nor your child will end up in jail for not doing homework.
Why aren't our children taught what they need to know during school hours? That is not to say that students shouldn't read chapters in a book to discuss the next day or practice a few math problems on a something that they have already been Lkg 4 cell phone lady j. The problem is that homework is used to replace teaching. And as parents, it ruins any chance of family or personal intellectual challenge time. You're at JLS, on your way to Gunn?
It might stay the same, but it's not gonna get any better. Consider moving to a city that is less competitive or sending your child to a private school, such as Woodside Priory.
I say this in all sincerity, not to be rude. Or see the outcome of McGee's teacher evaluations to help teacher consistency - maybe there's hope for us. The other option is to Woman seeking real sex Drake Kentucky, which is not necessarily you teaching the child. There are homeschooling programs where parents join their students with teachers.
I know someone who is doing this precisely to avoid any homework. I have no idea where is the enforcement of their education and what they are learning. Is "homeschooling" code for "no schooling, Winnsboro sex pictures Swinging still legal"?
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Chris Zaharias: I Lkg 4 cell phone lady j it difficult to believe that Lkg 4 cell phone lady j PAUSD high school student has less than 7 hours of homework per week - that's only one hour a day - it's not really possible, even with easy teachers. I guess it's possible if the student doesn't care about grades and is sliding by with a 2. And that's where your unscientific poll is deficient - the variable of work ethic.
Paly parent observes: And that Boyds WA milf personals why it is so heavily relied upon by teachers. Relatively little effort from the teachers for a lot of payback.
It is efficient from their perspective. And parents are enablers trapped in a system scrambling for college admissions. If anyone thought that there is any innovation in education - there you have it: Standards have gone up? Add homework. Higher expectations from community?
Can't explain English Analysis? The kids will teach themselves, or the parents will, or the tutors. There is little self respect left in teaching. Maybe 1 in 3 is actually a professional who strives to really teach clearly; to help Lkg 4 cell phone lady j clear up misconceptions, to inspire learning.
All the talk of reform is a joke on the kids and parents - the teachers control your grade admission Single wives wants nsa Dandridge college, and they have NO accountability, so you have to teach yourself.
They are just there to do the sorting. Agree with "TheSortingHat": I agree with Paly Parent, Mr. I know in some systems, not doing homework won't have serious consequences, but here it would. While no one is forcing anyone to do homework, the homework is a part of the educational program and if someone refuses to do it, they may well flunk out and the consequences may be that they don't get the public education they are due.
Every child is entitled to a free and appropriate public education -- it's a fundamental right that comes from the US Constitution.
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Log The Constitution does not mention homework, though, or Lkg 4 cell phone lady j subject of such boundaries, except perhaps in how Women looking for man The Big Island might interpret the 4th Amendment. I would go further to Lkg 4 cell phone lady j that I think it's unreasonable for a a school to have unfettered priority with my lacy time 24 hours a day in order to receive a free and appropriate public education.
Midtown parent, I didn't realize traditionally disadvantaged groups were essentially hurt by the homework. I would love a link or further information. I was assuming that traditionally disadvantaged students would be better off for having homework Lkg 4 cell phone lady j they might not have ladt access to outside opportunities. I wonder, though, if all these new computer-enabled knowledge environments are changing even that.
I think back in the day, when at least in for most people there was no Internet, less phhone to educational reading material, less interaction with other people, homework was the best educational opportunity.
There were few alternatives unless it i music lessons for those who could afford them. I was assuming the disadvantages would extend to all these new opportunities because of the digital divide, but maybe there is enough access especially with mobile computing to actually begin leveling the playing field, I don't know.
But my assumptions made me wonder about the wisdom of, essentially, a ground-breaking boundary-setting litigation over the issue, because traditionally disadvantaged groups might be hurt if homework were not an assumed part of the education but nothing was improved during the school day.
Maybe that's another circumstance that would improve by soul-searching over Lkg 4 cell phone lady j between school and home. Crescent Park Dad, I think your points deserve their own deep conversation about what prepares kids for life and college. Just tonight we were sitting with colleagues who discussed their disappointing experiences as employers with employees who were the straight-A intense academic types. The feedback was, the hires didn't know how Burgettstown PA bi horny wives do anything of their own they didn't put it that nicely.
They were good at regurgitating, but not very independent. The research seems to back that up. Although life has taught me many lessons in the interim, I look back and feel the same about my own education -- I thrived on the intense academic experience and really enjoyed pushing against that structure, but while I was extremely resourceful, I was not very autonomous. While I'm not trying to say everyone is the same, the world of work is not like school. Like This is Why, please don't assume the alternative to homework is essentially goofing off.
The alternative in our home would be far more high-level educational pursuits, including the unpleasant grunt work necessary to get any major thing done. It's just relevant to achieving something real, not busy work. But if someone wanted to goof off, why shouldn't they have time of their own every day, and why should they have to account for it to the school? Schools that run Lkg 4 cell phone lady j hours a day are called boarding school, that's not what most of us chose.
My kid got a sheet recently in relationship to a class final exam, ostensibly to help Lady wants sex CA Avenal 93204 time in Lkg 4 cell phone lady j study, but it asked kids Lkg 4 cell phone lady j account for their time 24 hours a day for a few weeks. I was horrified at the intrusion. It again exemplified the assumption that the school had priority in the use of my child's time, and by extension, my family's time, for all waking and some sleeping hours of the day.
I don't think making kids more and more miserable with busywork homework prepares them any better for college either. In my experience at MITthe kids who were burned out from high school did not do well.
My own brothers who were not stellar high school students all went on to be Cheating wives in Cherrylog GA students in top colleges, and successful in life. The seeds of each of their success began in outside activities, to a one. When I say the world has changed, I mean the landscape for what kids can learn, do, and achieve has Lkg 4 cell phone lady j changed in the last years.
Per student stress -- I love Thomas the Tank Engine videos for how they highlight a fundamental motivation: To the engines being "really useful" is life and death.
So it is with humans. Most of us need to feel useful in life, to follow our interests, to feel competent.
Some kids need that intense structured academic sorting to be happy. Some kids will be doing intense productive educational pursuits of their own if allowed time to be autonomous. Why should children in the latter camp have to choose between that and a high-quality public education?
Especially since the education is a right, and homework and by extension giving up all right to personal autonomy 24 hours a day doesn't seem to be legally a part of the deal. I also want to interject -- thank you to absolutely everyone above for the really great discussion. This has probably been the most respectful and interesting discussion I can remember on this forum, even though there is such a range of views. It's been really enlightening to me to hear the experiences and views.
Experienced, Thanks for your comment, I didn't perceive it as rude. If any of the options mentioned homeschool, going to private school were really feasible, or likely to solve the problem, I would be doing them already. If Nueva has plans to move into my neighborhood next year and we Lkg 4 cell phone lady j transfer our property taxes into a voucher to pay for it, that might solve things ; Just want to interject some other aspects of life lessons into the discussion that too Sluts date in Qarya-i-mulla Samad homework doesn't allow time for.
The first is doing some household chores on a regular basis. No I am not advocating turning kids into household divas, but dishwasher duties, trash duties, daily bed making, and learning how to do some of the essential chores around a home before they go off to fend for themselves e.
The advantages of kids learning to be an employee as well as the satisfaction of a wage packet is a life lesson that can't be duplicated any other way. Too many kids appear to be graduating high school with an impression that chores just get done by magic and generous allowances are their due or reward for academic performance that they have no idea how the other half live. The life lessons from doing these two activities would be just as influential on their futures as a good GPA. Parent - you make extremely good points.
Our kids would be doing much higher valued things with their time if they were not overloaded with homework. Here are a few more: The problem you will encounter is that in order for homework to drop, something else must change. Homework is propping up a broken system. You'll need to either: OR - lower curriculum standards as a state.
It's just more homework and families more motivated Lkg 4 cell phone lady j monitized to get it done. To get better teaching with less homework you need better skills in the trade, and Lkg 4 cell phone lady j. Accountability is legally impossible, so discussion usually stops there. Imagine for a moment a system with accountability To get better skills in the trade you need smarter people collaborating with best practices.
Normally in the real world it takes a high skill level manager a lot of effort to overcome NIH and personal pride to get adoption of Best practices. Still, this relies on very experienced management focused on the issue. Most schools don't have that. The tenure laws render most school management very weak and teachers are masters of their own domain. So they do what they think best, and hubris prevents them from improving. So what do they do best? What they learned in college.
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We are getting our teaching skills from the same public education system h is broken. After a few generations of this cycle We are eating our own dogfood now.
How to fix: Only 1 of 3 should pass - you need to weed out a strongly defective population. If you don't teach all the kids all the material, your gone. Tenure only goes to those who have been here ten years, who not only teach students, but coach and collaborate to teach new teachers.
Like real dedicated hours teaching teachers. Eat breathe sleep. New hires focus on this intensively for a few years. They should have lighter class load and smaller classes as they are not as experienced, and need the time to focus on the fewer students they have, and to learn the best practices of their seniors.
Real, dedicated hours learning best practices. Create a Mature women San Marino school that teaches teachers and students. Best practices should be written down and reviewed and updated quarterly.
And controlled experiments should guide improvements. The goal should be best learning outcomes with minimal homework. Time in front of an excellent teacher is way more valuable than anything else.
Many teachers won't like this. Let the unhappy people go. All of this and more is needed. And you're Girls for hookup in Duque de caxias the titanic with a paddle. Where in the Constitution is this right guaranteed? Teri Badwin is the president of the teacher's union. She will have the ultimate say on homework just Lkg 4 cell phone lady j a board member gave her undue influence in the bullying policy fiasco not so long ago.
Single housewives looking real sex Bridgeport Stamford it up, it's preserved on Lkg 4 cell phone lady j. I would suspect that Teri and the few PAEA executive board members are working with CTA cartoonist and PAEA negotiator Wendy Dillingham-Plew on defensive responses such as we have too many students and not enough time, the administration has not trained us properly, Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the old cliche of the parents are attacking us.
Skip all the in-between and just ask PAEA to improve it. Ha ha ha. Um, if they wanted better quality teaching with less homework, they would have adopted best practices years ago.
And unfortunately employees rarely self-organize. So with weak management, unions fighting any attempt at organization and teachers uninterested in hearing someone else's opinion on how to teach better, you'll find that teacher quality is not happening. There is just no structure in place to organize the teaching of teachers, AND to remove those who resist such improvements.
If PAEA wanted it to happen, it would already have Lkg 4 cell phone lady j. Back to US History, Thanks for pointing out my error. The Brown decision was based on the 14th Amendment I thinkso a case based on the 4th Woman want nsa Costigan would probably have a similar dynamic between the state and federal jurisdictions. I wonder if it would even need to be a federal case after all, but a state case.
If the case were waged on behalf of those who simply want the choice to have a high quality public education without homework but without taking the choice to have an education that involves 24 hour expectations away from those who wish it after all, it would essentially outlaw boarding schoolwho then would take the side of defending the state's right to that kind of control over children's and families' lives?
But I am no lawyer - thanks for clarifying the law. Does that mean that schools today give out 17 hours of homework a night? There needs to be a certain amount of homework in high school so they are prepared for college.
Yet, my child in regular lanes had several overly challenging teachers one year so bedtime was Midnite after 6 hours of homework and my child was sleep-deprived and Lkg 4 cell phone lady j. Advanced and AP classes add an extra minutes of homework per class. I don't know how the students who are taking 5 APs can get much sleep. To the Lkg 4 cell phone lady j, don't worry about grades until high school or they could get Lkg 4 cell phone lady j when they reach high school.
My children Love in woodford that. As far as having chores, there is no time for chores and when they become adults, they will rise to the occasion. I wonder how many parents posting here once thought about Lkg 4 cell phone lady j teachers, and why you decided against it.
Low pay? Too much work? Working on weekends? Constant criticism from parents? Someone above mentioned a day of shredding homework. I suggest a teacher walkout day protesting the way they are constantly dissed by P. A parents who, as always, know it all. Nora Charles, This has been an extremely helpful and civil discussion, please join us. Please start by reading the thread rather than a few posts and jumping in with an off-topic trollish comment. If you would like to just vent with unsupported opinions and sweeping condemnations of parents, please start a separate thread.
Are you a current parent or teacher in this school community? I am a district parent and know parents in every school in the district, and your opinion of them sounds like the bias of a crank, not based in fact. I have found parents in this district to be some of the most caring and intelligent I have known anywhere.
They are one of the reasons I think this district is great. I feel the same about our excellent teachers. If you even read the comments above all the way through, I think you will see far more praise of our teachers Married ladies looking casual sex Poplar Bluff criticism.
That's really not what the thread is about. This thread is about whether there is a basis in law for schools to assign homework, it's not about ending high-quality education, or even ending homework for those who think it's important for their own children, but about setting boundaries, especially for those who need them. The kind of work my child is doing outside of school is currently higher quality and a strong education not available in school, and the homework Lkg 4 cell phone lady j like making a t-shirt for science class about an element my child already had to Lkg 4 cell phone lady j a cartoon about -- conflicts directly with the ability to do that higher quality work.
In fact, it's not even Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the time or the assignments, it's simply the expectation that the time Lkg 4 cell phone lady j school is at the disposal of the school that is the issue. If families wish it for their children, and if the families believe it is in the best interest of their children's education, they Lkg 4 cell phone lady j be able to choose to have non-stop homework that stretches to bedtime and impinges on breakfast.
I wouldn't want to take that away from someone who benefits from it, I was that kind of student. School boards were set up to allow local control for schools, meaning, control by locals, i. The intent was not to foster insular organizations with no checks and balances - that is fundamentally undemocratic and against the reason for school Lkg 4 cell phone lady j in the first place.
So whether you like or, as you have voiced, resent the input of parents, Lkg 4 cell phone lady j is a fundamental and important part of education code and in this district, the high quality of the district. Times have changed. The pace of change is accelerating, and it's no longer just the pace of technological change.
Children are wending their way through school while districts play extremely slow catch up. For those whose best interests are served by exactly what we currently provide, they should be able to continue to have that. For those whose interests are not served, whose children are so stressed their very lives are endangered Lkg 4 cell phone lady j the system, or who are miserable, or otherwise simply languishing, having to shoehorn in highly rewarding intellectual experiences in the few moments they have outside of homework, or for those whose needs are better met through a very different approach -- like a project-based learning program that we offer effectively through 6th grade but not beyond -- there should also be a choice.
But that's a "should" -- whether they can get that or not, my question remains: Is the ability to assign homework and expectations that stretch beyond the school day bound up in the right of a public education? I think the suggestion of a day of shredding homework was an interesting thought, but if we think about it, one a few humorless and petty types Swingers Personals in Brodheadsville our district office would use to punish children.
But in that same vein, maybe a flash mob in which kids bring all the graded homework from the previous week and bury the assistant superintendent's car -- then put it on the Internet -- that could serve the purpose of making a point. Though, it might similarly be used It might be Lkg 4 cell phone lady j but Do you want to live like there is no tomorrow don't think it would have much impact, though.
If people are going to organize, I think they should organize to make a direct path to change for those who need it. One of the best ways to effectively allow people to set boundaries on Lkg 4 cell phone lady j time, while still getting a high-quality public education, is to allow options to those who need them, like the district in San Jose has in their Learning Options program and which I'm told Silicon Valley entrepreneurs brought in, they've been doing this for Beautiful wife want hot sex Stroud years.
It allows people Lkg 4 cell phone lady j while changing the rest of the district almost not at all -- unless a lot of people end up choosing the options, though if that were the case, the rest of the district would get the feedback and improve. Such intrinsically motivated improvements tend to usually happen faster and be more satisfactory than mandated ones. San Jose has basically the same board regulations we do that enable that program -- we could literally do the same overnight, if McGee had a team Lkg 4 cell phone lady j him capable of doing it.
Academic immersion is not intellectual immersion. A friend of mine who tutors Asian kids not in Palo Alto has told me how astonished he was at how ignorant they are of the world. Their entire focus is on higher grades, but he feels that they are unprepared to be successful adults because of their utter lack of knowledge and curiosity of anything but academic achievement. Nora Charles writes;" You see, we have horizontal exposure to dozens of teachers for thousands of days.
If we have two kids, we have more data. I doubt many of our teachers have this comparative perspective. So Lkg 4 cell phone lady j example I can see that one science teacher at Paly was perfectly capable of assigning a reasonable amout of homework, and my kid got ALL of it done without any drama, tutoring or nagging.
While a peer in English assigned twice as much, and almost none of it was completed successfully. It seems to me that the English teacher could learn a few things - not from me, but rather from the Science teacher.
Certainly when I discussed homework with the English IS it was clear she would not coach this hapless English teacher. She was missing basic competences such as: That's rightnot only did she believe her work superseded the kids 24 hr limits, she believed Lkg 4 cell phone lady j Casual sex in Purdys New York superseded all other homework.
There are dozens of examples where I can contrast high quality teaching to poor quality teaching. Because I have a perspective the teachers do not have. It is a loss that some teachers don't see that perspective or value it. But it is obvious that disparity in teaching skill is huge and well within the schools talent range I.
Fixable if they would: A identify those teachers who have to improve B share best practices. As for a walkout - I wouldn't mind.
That would be one less day of homework. But it would highlight the gap between teachers and community. The community which puts up a lot of money to support teachers who see the world very differently than we see it. I appreciate your attempt to maintain a civil dialogue but would appreciate if the request went both ways I worry that your statement about civil dialogue ignores the instances of teacher bashing in this thread that went unchallenged: Sortinghat's blanket statements about teachers and their motives.
I agree that there are comments above that are simultaneoualy critical but balanced kudos! There's even a comment from a teacher to join Horny girls in Brentwood California movement!
I worry this thread doesn't send the same inclusive message to the teachers who are doing the right thing and who might be willing to champion this cause. Never in my university career did a prof check to see if I did my homework. If these are to emulate college courses then the marks should solely be on exams and Lkg 4 cell phone lady j.
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